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Friday, May 19, 2017
Wednesday, May 17, 2017
Trump Rumors
I'm actually on the road right now, and I've got a lot on the platter. I'm writing this at an airport in the middle of the country. This is easier to write, but I'm giving my take on latest about President Trump. I want to continue a couple of series I've started, but I don't have the time to put into them in order to finish, so here goes.
Very often today, the media is pushing the narrative that Donald Trump is on the road to impeachment. You also hear from the same that Republicans are scared, troubled, and losing faith in Trump. Here's what I think, and I've basically been right start to finish so far about Trump. I think I'm right again, but here is what I think is really happening.
The media drives the Democrat Party. Who feeds the media? First, the media is an entity to itself and it feeds the Democrat Party. Second, the media receives distracting talking points from leftover establishment and liberal types in the federal bureaucracy, including the intelligence gathering components domestic and foreign. Third, a few very influential Democrats tied to the Clintons and the Obamas formulate stories for the media to tell. Almost all of the stories, as I see it, are lies, at least lies in their basic premise.
We know from the account of the Clinton campaign, the book, Shattered, that as soon as Hillary lost, Podesta and crew came up with the Russian story as an excuse for losing. The media has run with it. There is very little, as is said, there, there. If you scoured what every Trump associate or supporter did, you might find something inappropriate that might possibly be vaguely construed as violating some either law or ethic. Mainly I'm talking about anyone who even talked to a Russian that could be used to place someone on the grassy knoll.
The greatest violations of law and national security and liberty have come from Democrats, primarily three: illegal surveillance or eavesdropping on Republicans, including Trump team, for political purposes, the illegal and traitorous leaking to the media, and then the continued pile of evidence that the Clintons exposed tons of classified information, including that on the computer of Anthony Weiner, and profited from pay to play corruption in their foundation. What I just stated is the real issue and the media is essentially covering it up, and establishment Republicans like John McCain are useful idiots to the media.
Every other story, that is a fake story, totally contrived, is the Russian collusion story. It's just being used to hurt Trump, his leadership, his presidency, and agenda. First, none of us has still received the evidence that the Russians affected the election. People say it, but we don't know it. We don't know that information wasn't leaked by Democrats themselves. The media isn't taking that pathway because it conflicts with its agenda. Second, we don't know what the worst possible of the Trump people has even done that is illegal. Even if it is inappropriate, it pales next to Obama and Clinton in anything akin to it. Flynn is already fired. He can't be fired again.
I have seen no evidence of Russian collusion. Some of the stories written are outright lies. Those are the bigger concern. Part of it now is this idea that Trump gave the Russians classified information hurtful to an American ally. This is still unproven even if illegal. McMaster is a favorite among even Democrats and establishment, and he is defending Trump. Then there is Trump firing Comey to protect himself against an investigation, which continues unimpeded even by the testimony of the acting FBI chief. I see Trump as firing Comey, because Comey is being too political, including in how he is treating this Russian situation, which is a nothing. It seems to me that Comey has used it as leverage. It obviously didn't work.
The last part of this is the new story that Trump asked Comey if he wouldn't investigate Flynn, because Flynn is a good man. I think Trump believes Flynn is a good man, who has suffered more than what he should have. He also wants this fake story to end, because it is a distraction to his administration. Asking if the FBI would be lenient with Flynn isn't a crime. They have spun it into obstruction of justice, and as impeachable.
The stuff against Trump is a fake story, fake news, a total house of cards. That is my point of view. We'll see how it comes out.
There is much more than this, but my flight just got called.
Very often today, the media is pushing the narrative that Donald Trump is on the road to impeachment. You also hear from the same that Republicans are scared, troubled, and losing faith in Trump. Here's what I think, and I've basically been right start to finish so far about Trump. I think I'm right again, but here is what I think is really happening.
The media drives the Democrat Party. Who feeds the media? First, the media is an entity to itself and it feeds the Democrat Party. Second, the media receives distracting talking points from leftover establishment and liberal types in the federal bureaucracy, including the intelligence gathering components domestic and foreign. Third, a few very influential Democrats tied to the Clintons and the Obamas formulate stories for the media to tell. Almost all of the stories, as I see it, are lies, at least lies in their basic premise.
We know from the account of the Clinton campaign, the book, Shattered, that as soon as Hillary lost, Podesta and crew came up with the Russian story as an excuse for losing. The media has run with it. There is very little, as is said, there, there. If you scoured what every Trump associate or supporter did, you might find something inappropriate that might possibly be vaguely construed as violating some either law or ethic. Mainly I'm talking about anyone who even talked to a Russian that could be used to place someone on the grassy knoll.
The greatest violations of law and national security and liberty have come from Democrats, primarily three: illegal surveillance or eavesdropping on Republicans, including Trump team, for political purposes, the illegal and traitorous leaking to the media, and then the continued pile of evidence that the Clintons exposed tons of classified information, including that on the computer of Anthony Weiner, and profited from pay to play corruption in their foundation. What I just stated is the real issue and the media is essentially covering it up, and establishment Republicans like John McCain are useful idiots to the media.
Every other story, that is a fake story, totally contrived, is the Russian collusion story. It's just being used to hurt Trump, his leadership, his presidency, and agenda. First, none of us has still received the evidence that the Russians affected the election. People say it, but we don't know it. We don't know that information wasn't leaked by Democrats themselves. The media isn't taking that pathway because it conflicts with its agenda. Second, we don't know what the worst possible of the Trump people has even done that is illegal. Even if it is inappropriate, it pales next to Obama and Clinton in anything akin to it. Flynn is already fired. He can't be fired again.
I have seen no evidence of Russian collusion. Some of the stories written are outright lies. Those are the bigger concern. Part of it now is this idea that Trump gave the Russians classified information hurtful to an American ally. This is still unproven even if illegal. McMaster is a favorite among even Democrats and establishment, and he is defending Trump. Then there is Trump firing Comey to protect himself against an investigation, which continues unimpeded even by the testimony of the acting FBI chief. I see Trump as firing Comey, because Comey is being too political, including in how he is treating this Russian situation, which is a nothing. It seems to me that Comey has used it as leverage. It obviously didn't work.
The last part of this is the new story that Trump asked Comey if he wouldn't investigate Flynn, because Flynn is a good man. I think Trump believes Flynn is a good man, who has suffered more than what he should have. He also wants this fake story to end, because it is a distraction to his administration. Asking if the FBI would be lenient with Flynn isn't a crime. They have spun it into obstruction of justice, and as impeachable.
The stuff against Trump is a fake story, fake news, a total house of cards. That is my point of view. We'll see how it comes out.
There is much more than this, but my flight just got called.
Monday, May 15, 2017
God Has to Be God, pt. 2
Part One
"I believe in God," you insist. Sure, and the god to whom you refer both expects and allows you to live pretty close to how you want. That's the god you believe in. Actual God doesn't count that belief as believing in God, because it isn't Him, actual Him, Whom you are believing in.
What I'm writing about, the Apostle Paul describes in Romans 1:25, 26, and 28, which together read:
Verse 28 expands upon verse 25 by explaining that they "did not like to retain God in their knowledge." "Did not like to retain" is literally that "they approved not to have God in their knowledge." The second half of 25 is a play on words. "Approved not" is ouk dokimazo and "reprobate" is adokimos, both the same root words. Their minds trash God, and their minds become the judgment of God itself. Men can't think straight when the one and true God isn't accepted in their thoughts. Their minds become what their minds do. Their minds trash God and their minds become trash. The judgment is a built-in consequence.
The chief alternative god to actual God, that I see today in the world, is what I call the goodymeister. He's a kind of living vending machine. He's perfect for men walking after their own lusts, who don't want a boss. Knowing he is who men want as god, churches offer him as god to their people. He does not form in their imagination mainly through a doctrinal statement, but by the style and substance of the preaching and the worship. They give him, this goodymeister god, what they like, what they would want if they were him. His adherents would gladly serve him, because he wants the same things they do.
"I believe in God," you insist. Sure, and the god to whom you refer both expects and allows you to live pretty close to how you want. That's the god you believe in. Actual God doesn't count that belief as believing in God, because it isn't Him, actual Him, Whom you are believing in.
What I'm writing about, the Apostle Paul describes in Romans 1:25, 26, and 28, which together read:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections. . . . 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.People change the truth of God into a lie. The idea of "the truth of God" in this context is "the truth about God." They reject the truth about God for a lie about God. They call their god, God, but in fact they serve the creature. Their god functions within their own parameters.
Verse 28 expands upon verse 25 by explaining that they "did not like to retain God in their knowledge." "Did not like to retain" is literally that "they approved not to have God in their knowledge." The second half of 25 is a play on words. "Approved not" is ouk dokimazo and "reprobate" is adokimos, both the same root words. Their minds trash God, and their minds become the judgment of God itself. Men can't think straight when the one and true God isn't accepted in their thoughts. Their minds become what their minds do. Their minds trash God and their minds become trash. The judgment is a built-in consequence.
The chief alternative god to actual God, that I see today in the world, is what I call the goodymeister. He's a kind of living vending machine. He's perfect for men walking after their own lusts, who don't want a boss. Knowing he is who men want as god, churches offer him as god to their people. He does not form in their imagination mainly through a doctrinal statement, but by the style and substance of the preaching and the worship. They give him, this goodymeister god, what they like, what they would want if they were him. His adherents would gladly serve him, because he wants the same things they do.
Friday, May 12, 2017
Atheist Compliments on Daniel
As many readers of this blog may know, I have written an apologetic work entitled The Book of Daniel: Proof that the Bible is the Word of God. I used the arguments in this work in my debate last year with Dan Barker of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, "The Old Testament is Mainly Fiction, Not Fact," and it came up again in my most recent debate with him, "Prophecy and Archaeology Validate the Bible as the Word of God." Mr. Barker did not have a good explanation for the overwhelming evidence of plain, specific predictive prophecies in Daniel, nor did he have an explanation for the powerful evidences that Daniel wrote the book in the 6th century, far before the time that the predictions in the book were fulfilled.
I am pleased that two significant anti-Christian skeptical writers (both of whom do a better job than Mr. Barker trying to attack the Bible, although they are unsuccessful), have given my work on Daniel very notable compliments. One said: "Tom . . . has compiled the most thorough and reasonable defense for the traditional view of Daniel that I have ever encountered. I commend him for the time and effort." Another said: "I agree . . . that Tom's efforts at defending the traditional dating of Daniel were the best I'd seen." I am thankful for this praise from these anti-Biblical skeptics, although they were not willing, at least as of now, to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. (Please note that I am absolutely NOT recommending their blogs or their writings by posting this information, although the objections to Scripture are the typical sort one encounters in works of theological liberalism. Young Christians and/or unsaved people could definitely be harmed by the misinformation and attacks on God's Word in their blogs.)
Both skeptics argued that Ezekiel's reference to Daniel was actually not to the man Daniel, but to a pagan Baal worshipper named Dan'el who is found in the Legend of Aqhat. The response to such a highly problematic argument is contained below (reproduced from a footnote in The Book of Daniel: Proof that the Bible is the Word of God):
The desperate anti-supernaturalist argument that the Daniel referenced
by Ezekiel is not the righteous and wise servant of Jehovah who authored the
book of Daniel and who is compared to Noah and Job as comparable righteous
worshippers of Jehovah, all three of whom are mentioned in the Hebrew Bible,
but is an ungodly worshipper of the god Baal called Dan’el who is referenced in
a ancient legend, is surely an argument made out of desperation in order to
avoid the obvious implications of Ezekiel’s validation of the Jewish prophet
Daniel and his inspired Book. Archer
comments:
[The anti-supernaturalist theory that] the Daniel
referred to in Ezekiel must have been the ancient hero named Dan’el, whose life
story is narrated in the Ugaritic legend of Aqhat (dating from about the
fifteenth century B.C.) . . . [has extremely] serious difficulties[.] . . [T]he
Lord’s declaration quoted in Ezekiel 14:14, 20 and 28:3 amounts to this: Even
though such godly leaders as Noah (at the dawn of history), and Job (in the
time of Moses or a little before), and Daniel (from the contemporary scene in
Ezekiel’s own generation) should all unite in interceding for apostate Judah,
God could not hear their prayers on behalf of that rebellious nation. . . . The
. . . difficulty with identifying the Daniel of Ezekiel 14 with the Dan’el of
the Ugaritic epic is found in the character and spiritual condition of Dan’el
himself. When the legend of Aqhat is studied in its full context, which relates the
story of Dan’el, the father of young Aqhat, it is found that he is
praised as being a faithful idol-worshiper, principally occupied with seven-day
periods of sacrifices to the various gods of the Canaanite pantheon, such as
Baal and El. His relationship to Baal was especially close, and he made bold to
petition him for a son, so that when Dan’el became so drunk at a wild party
that he could not walk by himself, his son might assist him back to his home
and bed, to sleep off his drunken stupor. Later on, after the promised son (Aqhat) is born, and is later killed at the behest of the spiteful goddess
Anath, Dan’el lifts up his voice in a terrible curse against the vulture
(Samal) which had taken his son’s life. He prevails on Baal to break the wings
of all the vultures that fly overhead, so that he can slit open their stomachs
and see whether any of them contains the remains of his dead son. At last he
discovers the grisly evidence in the belly of Samal, queen of the vultures. He
then kills her and puts a curse on Abelim, the city of the vultures. The next
seven years he spends in weeping and wailing for his dead son, and finally
contrives to have his own daughter (Paghat) assassinate the warrior Yatpan,
who was also involved in Aqhat’s murder seven years before.
From this
portrayal of Dan’el it is quite apparent that he could never have been associated
with Noah and Job as a paragon of righteousness and purity of life. Nothing
could be more unlikely than that a strict and zealous monotheist like Ezekiel
would have regarded with appreciation a Baal-worshiper, a polytheistic pagan
given to violent rage and unremitting vengefulness, a drunken carouser who
needed assistance to find his way home to his own bed. Apart from a passing
mention of Dan’el’s faithful fulfillment of his duties as a judge at the city
gate—a requirement expected of all judges according to the Torah—there is no
suggestion in the Ugaritic poem that he is any outstanding hero of the faith,
eligible for inclusion with Noah and Job. It is therefore quite hopeless to
maintain this identification of Ezekiel’s “Daniel” with the Dan’el of Ugaritic
legend. (Ibid).
Thus, the Legend of Aqhat frequently mentions
Dan’el’s worship of Baal, frequently connects Dan’el and drunkenness,
emphasizes Dan’el’s son Aquat disobeying the goddess Anath, who kills Aqhat for
his impiety, and speaks of a plot with Dan’el and his daughter to deceive and
commit murder. The Legend of Aqhat never even once uses the adjectives “righteous” or
“wise” for Dan’el. A simple reading of
Ezekiel 14:14, 20; 28:3 and the pagan Legend
makes any identification of the person spoken of by Ezekiel and the person
specified in the Legend an instance
of insanity. Only the extreme difficulty
for anti-supernaturalism contained in Ezekiel’s reference to the man Daniel,
author of the inspired book of Daniel, explains anyone’s affirming what is so
obviously false. The fact that such
extreme measures must be pursued in order to attempt to eliminate Ezekiel’s
testimony illustrates how powerful an evidence it is in favor of Daniel’s sixth
century authorship of the book bearing his name, and thus of the reality of
predictive prophecy.
I should also note that attempts to make Daniel's fourth empire Greece instead of Rome, and to make the 70 weeks prophecy end in the Maccabean period instead of in the time of Christ's ministry, require one to torture the plain meaning of the text of the book. The obvious sense of Daniel must be changed if one is to attempt to get out of its predictive prophetic content, its plain evidence of the miraculous at work in the composition of the Bible.
Copies of this apologetic work on Daniel can be downloaded as MS Word files here and personalized for use in your Bible-believing Baptist church. I have added in pictures to the second half of the work dealing with Daniel's authorship, and am planning, Lord willing, to update the first half as well, and then make the book available for both electronic and print acquisition.
Tuesday, May 09, 2017
God Has to Be God
If you don't like the only God there is, you can always make up your own and believe in him or her. What do you think? I mean, you can do that, just like you can wait in line for an invisible ride at the amusement park, hoping to ride it. You say, "No one does that." Most people do that with God. They shape a god in their minds to fit their desires. Religions or churches encourage this too. People fill up buildings to and for a god that doesn't exist. There is a point when actual God dips below His actual identity in people's imagination, so that He isn't God anymore.
Let's say a very strong, large, tough man in an official uniform, because he's in authority, tells you that you've got to eat two fried eggs and two slices of whole wheat, buttered toast every morning, or he'll plaster you in the nose with his fist. In your mind, he doesn't exist, so you eat oatmeal instead. I guess he was real, as seen in your broken, bleeding nose. The next morning you try two pieces of fruit and then welcome his fist again. It doesn't seem you can just wish him away. He's real. The next morning it is two fried eggs and two slices of whole wheat, buttered toast, no fist in your nose either.
Your thoughts and the acknowledgement and belief about God must portend with reality. You can't imagine Him to be who you want Him to be and then count a response to Him as God to count as one. God has to be God.
People worship the God of their imagination. For Him to be God, the imagination must be shaped by and then conform to the truth. If not, He isn't Him. You can say you are worshiping Him, but you are not. You can say He will save you, and He won't. You can say that you are safe from God's judgment, but you are not. You can say that you are waiting for a ride at the amusement park, but it must exist for you to do that.
The nation Israel started off with God, or what we could call the One, True God. There is only One, so someone can just call Him God. God revealed Himself. After awhile, in general Israel didn't like their God, Who was the only God. Even though there isn't another one, they wanted another one, or at least the One they had, the true One, to be different than Who He actually was. They began worshiping their God like one of the other ones, which were gods of their roundabout neighbors.
By the time we get to Jesus in the gospels, the Samaritans, who were partly Jewish, were worshiping a god about which Jesus said in John 4:22, "Ye worship ye know not what." Later, when the Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans, you could say that they were in a similar circumstance, when he told the Jews there in the audience in Romans 10:2, "For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge." At Corinth, the imagination of Jesus had been so distorted, that Paul wrote professing believers there in 1 Corinthians 12:3, claiming to be "speaking by the Spirit of God," "calleth Jesus accursed." In their ecstatic state, they thought that true about Jesus, and accused the Holy Spirit of revealing that lie to them about Jesus as well.
The nation Israel started with the right knowledge, but that knowledge became distorted as Israelites, Jews, began to conform God in their minds to their own desires. They would match up to God in their own righteousness, so His righteousness must be something where theirs could do that. They diminished God's righteousness with the thought that He would see theirs as acceptable. They wouldn't have to submit to the righteousness of the new god of their imagination. They could establish their own righteousness as good enough and be saved by works. God wasn't God anymore in their imagination. The god that replaces God is an idol. They are worshiping an idol, an idol that accepts their behavior, which is less than what actual God accepts.
Most people have a different god today with whom they are satisfied with. They serve him in their own way. They obey him like they like to obey. He saves them like they want to be saved. He's not real. In the end, the one, only True God will give them the equivalent of the metaphorical fist in the nose of the above illustration in paragraph two. They'll know Who He is right at that moment, but it will be too late.
If we can't take the only God at His Word, we won't believe in Him. When we won't or can't believe, we won't or can't be saved. God has to be God.
Let's say a very strong, large, tough man in an official uniform, because he's in authority, tells you that you've got to eat two fried eggs and two slices of whole wheat, buttered toast every morning, or he'll plaster you in the nose with his fist. In your mind, he doesn't exist, so you eat oatmeal instead. I guess he was real, as seen in your broken, bleeding nose. The next morning you try two pieces of fruit and then welcome his fist again. It doesn't seem you can just wish him away. He's real. The next morning it is two fried eggs and two slices of whole wheat, buttered toast, no fist in your nose either.
Your thoughts and the acknowledgement and belief about God must portend with reality. You can't imagine Him to be who you want Him to be and then count a response to Him as God to count as one. God has to be God.
People worship the God of their imagination. For Him to be God, the imagination must be shaped by and then conform to the truth. If not, He isn't Him. You can say you are worshiping Him, but you are not. You can say He will save you, and He won't. You can say that you are safe from God's judgment, but you are not. You can say that you are waiting for a ride at the amusement park, but it must exist for you to do that.
The nation Israel started off with God, or what we could call the One, True God. There is only One, so someone can just call Him God. God revealed Himself. After awhile, in general Israel didn't like their God, Who was the only God. Even though there isn't another one, they wanted another one, or at least the One they had, the true One, to be different than Who He actually was. They began worshiping their God like one of the other ones, which were gods of their roundabout neighbors.
By the time we get to Jesus in the gospels, the Samaritans, who were partly Jewish, were worshiping a god about which Jesus said in John 4:22, "Ye worship ye know not what." Later, when the Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans, you could say that they were in a similar circumstance, when he told the Jews there in the audience in Romans 10:2, "For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge." At Corinth, the imagination of Jesus had been so distorted, that Paul wrote professing believers there in 1 Corinthians 12:3, claiming to be "speaking by the Spirit of God," "calleth Jesus accursed." In their ecstatic state, they thought that true about Jesus, and accused the Holy Spirit of revealing that lie to them about Jesus as well.
The nation Israel started with the right knowledge, but that knowledge became distorted as Israelites, Jews, began to conform God in their minds to their own desires. They would match up to God in their own righteousness, so His righteousness must be something where theirs could do that. They diminished God's righteousness with the thought that He would see theirs as acceptable. They wouldn't have to submit to the righteousness of the new god of their imagination. They could establish their own righteousness as good enough and be saved by works. God wasn't God anymore in their imagination. The god that replaces God is an idol. They are worshiping an idol, an idol that accepts their behavior, which is less than what actual God accepts.
Most people have a different god today with whom they are satisfied with. They serve him in their own way. They obey him like they like to obey. He saves them like they want to be saved. He's not real. In the end, the one, only True God will give them the equivalent of the metaphorical fist in the nose of the above illustration in paragraph two. They'll know Who He is right at that moment, but it will be too late.
If we can't take the only God at His Word, we won't believe in Him. When we won't or can't believe, we won't or can't be saved. God has to be God.
Saturday, May 06, 2017
Julia and Derek: The Engagement
On April 14, Derek Wilhite asked my eldest daughter, Julia, to marry him. She said yes. Here's the story.
Back in the day, when I became a Freshman in college the Fall of 1980, I joined a college society, Euangelistes, because it was Jerry Wilhite's. He was a Senior. I attended high school at the same institution, so I knew who Jerry was and I chose it because he was in it. Later Jerry and I were in graduate school together for a year or two. We took many of our classes from Thomas Strouse, who had an influence on both of us. I remember going to Jerry and Debbie Wilhite's apartment for a meal during that time. There are many, many other ties I could tell -- many. If we fast forward a few years, our church in California took the Wilhites for support to South Africa. They were one of our missionaries. We have kept track of them for decades. My assessment had been we believe and practice the same.
About four or five years ago, a beloved young man in our church, who had been saved and discipled here, David Warner, initiated a courtship, agreed upon by Jerry, with his third daughter, Julianna. My family went out for their wedding three years ago at Lehigh Valley Baptist Church. There my wife and I met all of the Wilhite children, including Derek. We spent one day with him and others down in Philadelphia at that time.
I don't believe the woman initiates marriage, but the man as seen in Genesis 2. Women sometimes do, but it's just not the scriptural model. I do think that the Dad can make others aware he's got daughters and inquire if anyone knows of any interest. I remember asking Jerry if he knew of any young men in his circles, who he might think would be interested in Julia. Some of that day in Philadelphia, I spent walking around with Derek, and I liked him. I had noticed his hard work around the church property. Later Derek told me that Julia made a good impression to him, but Derek also did to us.
Even though I had preached on the obtaining of a life's partner several times and written a series about it over at the old Jackhammer blog, this was my first personal episode as a father, to see what how it might turn out on the ground. It wasn't as though my efforts were just starting. My wife and I raised children. That's part of the process -- their character, their beliefs, and their honed abilities. I'll get back to that later, because getting ready for marriage is the most important part for two people. These two really, really did that.
By my record, March 24, 2015, Derek wrote me for the first time, and we began a correspondence then that continued over two years. Two years. This didn't happen fast. His Dad and I had talked a few times before that in an exploratory way. We support the Wilhites as missionaries. Even though he wasn't stating his purpose, I understood what was going on when Derek wrote. Awhile after that, he made his first phone call, and we very often called, increasingly so, as we moved along.
I appreciated Derek's tack on this process. He didn't start at all, one bit, with my daughter. He started with me. Observe that, young men. I've got two other daughters, and if you want to disqualify yourself, try starting this with one of them and not with me. It had already been attempted with Julia by others. A good test of manhood is the ability to talk to a man. Boys like beginning with the daughter, but men are fine starting with the Father. Men.
With the announcement of their engagement, many, several, said to us that they thought we were moving along, it seemed, too quickly. I laughed. For our family, it was slow. I see the point as, people want to watch the process in the open, and if they don't get to see all of it, then it isn't happening. What they see seems fast, but it wasn't fast. It doesn't count as happening if people don't see, like a dating situation would. I wouldn't want the process to look like that. Nothing is really happening until someone makes a commitment. Derek's commitment was to talking to me first and I really, really admire that. He showed confidence, something I'd want to see in a man who would marry my daughter. It wasn't always easy, but he was being patient and concentrated on what was important. I also appreciate his parents and their support and leadership in all this. They also raised a good son by the grace of God.
When there is no commitment yet, and there shouldn't be, the two not ready for the commitment, they are committed to the process, which occurs in private. However, it is occurring, and it wasn't fast. Both could relax to do what they needed to do at the time. They could focus on their priorities. There was not pressure to keep a relationship going. It was about what it needed to be about, and that is making sure that two would want to make a commitment, would be ready to do so, really ready. The most important things to know can be learned without being around each other, and those can be learned in the courtship phase of this. They are not emotionally involved. If the two aren't committed, then they haven't given themselves to each other. They need to know first.
Julia was positive and fine about Derek during the process. She knew what was happening and was happy about it. I did not convey that information to Derek. What he knew was that we were happy about it. I'm sure every guy wants to know how happy the lady is. I was being honest with him. If it wasn't going to work, I would tell him. He knew that too. Of course, he wanted to know whether she liked him. Courtship started on February 2. He asked if he could court. Julia said, yes. Her mom and I said, yes. He knew she said, yes. He had a "yes."
Both Julia and Derek gave testimony of salvation and showed the fruit of that in their lives. That is foundational. You can't know that without some long term testimony in a true church. During the writing and phone conversation, Derek went to school at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, studying mechanical engineering. He did an excellent as a student and graduated in December 2016 toward the top of his class and with a very high gpa. He has no college debt. He worked and saved. He didn't make impulsive purchases. He was a very active member of his church -- evangelism, attendance, physical labor, and music. His friends are in the church. He likes to talk about spiritual things. He is a student of the Word. He is a bold Christian. He kept his pastor updated on the plans and checked in with all of it.
Julia will graduate from Cal State East Bay in kinesiology in June. She will have no debt. She too worked and saved. She has a great job and in a leadership position at Skyhawks out here. She too is an active and helpful member of our church here.
When courtship began, I told them they could text and talk. When they were together in person, they needed a chaperone. That was already Derek's standard. They have been chaperoned and have enjoyed that. They haven't touched. They have honored the Lord, each other, and their parents. They both waited and saved themselves for each other. They have been a great testimony in this whole process.
When Derek asked if he could marry, Julia, I had a few questions still, that he answered well. That was by phone. He told me some of the details about how he would ask. He was coming out in the middle of April for a job interview and the company would pay for the flight.
Derek included us in his proposal part of it. Julia and he went on a bike ride with my youngest daughter from Pier 39 in San Francisco to Sausalito across the Golden Gate bridge. He asked for her hand under the bridge on the city side. We met them in Sausalito for lunch. They took the bikes via ferry back to the city. They did a great job of informing certain key people first, so they would not find out through social media. No one knew until they were told. People were surprised, because we and they kept it quiet and safe. Derek did a great job, paying great attention to detail.
The wedding, Lord-willing, will likely be sometime January to March next year. Derek is moving out to California later this month to live here. The two will work with us in our church. We are very thankful for it all. We are thankful for his church and pastor, and again for his parents. Because they did this right, they have made this a very wonderful situation. You should remember that. It's much better when you do things right. I am glad to say that they are an example worth emulating by others.
Back in the day, when I became a Freshman in college the Fall of 1980, I joined a college society, Euangelistes, because it was Jerry Wilhite's. He was a Senior. I attended high school at the same institution, so I knew who Jerry was and I chose it because he was in it. Later Jerry and I were in graduate school together for a year or two. We took many of our classes from Thomas Strouse, who had an influence on both of us. I remember going to Jerry and Debbie Wilhite's apartment for a meal during that time. There are many, many other ties I could tell -- many. If we fast forward a few years, our church in California took the Wilhites for support to South Africa. They were one of our missionaries. We have kept track of them for decades. My assessment had been we believe and practice the same.
About four or five years ago, a beloved young man in our church, who had been saved and discipled here, David Warner, initiated a courtship, agreed upon by Jerry, with his third daughter, Julianna. My family went out for their wedding three years ago at Lehigh Valley Baptist Church. There my wife and I met all of the Wilhite children, including Derek. We spent one day with him and others down in Philadelphia at that time.
I don't believe the woman initiates marriage, but the man as seen in Genesis 2. Women sometimes do, but it's just not the scriptural model. I do think that the Dad can make others aware he's got daughters and inquire if anyone knows of any interest. I remember asking Jerry if he knew of any young men in his circles, who he might think would be interested in Julia. Some of that day in Philadelphia, I spent walking around with Derek, and I liked him. I had noticed his hard work around the church property. Later Derek told me that Julia made a good impression to him, but Derek also did to us.
Even though I had preached on the obtaining of a life's partner several times and written a series about it over at the old Jackhammer blog, this was my first personal episode as a father, to see what how it might turn out on the ground. It wasn't as though my efforts were just starting. My wife and I raised children. That's part of the process -- their character, their beliefs, and their honed abilities. I'll get back to that later, because getting ready for marriage is the most important part for two people. These two really, really did that.
By my record, March 24, 2015, Derek wrote me for the first time, and we began a correspondence then that continued over two years. Two years. This didn't happen fast. His Dad and I had talked a few times before that in an exploratory way. We support the Wilhites as missionaries. Even though he wasn't stating his purpose, I understood what was going on when Derek wrote. Awhile after that, he made his first phone call, and we very often called, increasingly so, as we moved along.
I appreciated Derek's tack on this process. He didn't start at all, one bit, with my daughter. He started with me. Observe that, young men. I've got two other daughters, and if you want to disqualify yourself, try starting this with one of them and not with me. It had already been attempted with Julia by others. A good test of manhood is the ability to talk to a man. Boys like beginning with the daughter, but men are fine starting with the Father. Men.
With the announcement of their engagement, many, several, said to us that they thought we were moving along, it seemed, too quickly. I laughed. For our family, it was slow. I see the point as, people want to watch the process in the open, and if they don't get to see all of it, then it isn't happening. What they see seems fast, but it wasn't fast. It doesn't count as happening if people don't see, like a dating situation would. I wouldn't want the process to look like that. Nothing is really happening until someone makes a commitment. Derek's commitment was to talking to me first and I really, really admire that. He showed confidence, something I'd want to see in a man who would marry my daughter. It wasn't always easy, but he was being patient and concentrated on what was important. I also appreciate his parents and their support and leadership in all this. They also raised a good son by the grace of God.
When there is no commitment yet, and there shouldn't be, the two not ready for the commitment, they are committed to the process, which occurs in private. However, it is occurring, and it wasn't fast. Both could relax to do what they needed to do at the time. They could focus on their priorities. There was not pressure to keep a relationship going. It was about what it needed to be about, and that is making sure that two would want to make a commitment, would be ready to do so, really ready. The most important things to know can be learned without being around each other, and those can be learned in the courtship phase of this. They are not emotionally involved. If the two aren't committed, then they haven't given themselves to each other. They need to know first.
Julia was positive and fine about Derek during the process. She knew what was happening and was happy about it. I did not convey that information to Derek. What he knew was that we were happy about it. I'm sure every guy wants to know how happy the lady is. I was being honest with him. If it wasn't going to work, I would tell him. He knew that too. Of course, he wanted to know whether she liked him. Courtship started on February 2. He asked if he could court. Julia said, yes. Her mom and I said, yes. He knew she said, yes. He had a "yes."
Both Julia and Derek gave testimony of salvation and showed the fruit of that in their lives. That is foundational. You can't know that without some long term testimony in a true church. During the writing and phone conversation, Derek went to school at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, studying mechanical engineering. He did an excellent as a student and graduated in December 2016 toward the top of his class and with a very high gpa. He has no college debt. He worked and saved. He didn't make impulsive purchases. He was a very active member of his church -- evangelism, attendance, physical labor, and music. His friends are in the church. He likes to talk about spiritual things. He is a student of the Word. He is a bold Christian. He kept his pastor updated on the plans and checked in with all of it.
Julia will graduate from Cal State East Bay in kinesiology in June. She will have no debt. She too worked and saved. She has a great job and in a leadership position at Skyhawks out here. She too is an active and helpful member of our church here.
When courtship began, I told them they could text and talk. When they were together in person, they needed a chaperone. That was already Derek's standard. They have been chaperoned and have enjoyed that. They haven't touched. They have honored the Lord, each other, and their parents. They both waited and saved themselves for each other. They have been a great testimony in this whole process.
When Derek asked if he could marry, Julia, I had a few questions still, that he answered well. That was by phone. He told me some of the details about how he would ask. He was coming out in the middle of April for a job interview and the company would pay for the flight.
Derek included us in his proposal part of it. Julia and he went on a bike ride with my youngest daughter from Pier 39 in San Francisco to Sausalito across the Golden Gate bridge. He asked for her hand under the bridge on the city side. We met them in Sausalito for lunch. They took the bikes via ferry back to the city. They did a great job of informing certain key people first, so they would not find out through social media. No one knew until they were told. People were surprised, because we and they kept it quiet and safe. Derek did a great job, paying great attention to detail.
The wedding, Lord-willing, will likely be sometime January to March next year. Derek is moving out to California later this month to live here. The two will work with us in our church. We are very thankful for it all. We are thankful for his church and pastor, and again for his parents. Because they did this right, they have made this a very wonderful situation. You should remember that. It's much better when you do things right. I am glad to say that they are an example worth emulating by others.
Friday, May 05, 2017
Andrew Murray, Mystical Quietist and Higher Life / Keswick Writer, part 3 of 7
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Tuesday, May 02, 2017
Evangelicals Arguing about Pink Hair Dye on Male Church Members, pt 2
Part One (I and I'm sure many others are hopeful that Douglas Wilson's son, Nate, a many published author and married father of a few children, will recover well from the removal of a brain tumor this week.)
The point of my first post was not to isolate the single issue of optic hair coloring, whether men or women. It is that scripture doesn't say, "Thou shalt not dye thy hair with iridescent hues." There are great number of prohibitive activities the Bible doesn't prohibit. God's Word is intended to be applied. Men are supposed to live it, because it can be lived. Being lived requires application.
Separatists for awhile have been applying scripture to such things as dress. The Bible teaches on dress. Scripture is sufficient for every area of life. On many areas that Christians applied scripture through history, evangelicals stopped applying, especially in areas of what has been called personal separation, which relate to worldliness. For believers to worship God, that is, "present [their] bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God (Rom 12:1), they must obey two imperatives, commands, in Romans 12:2, "be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind."
"Conformed" is external and "transformed" is external. Both look like something that has to be judged, and the assumption is that believers can judge and should judge. "Conformed" (suschematizo) comes from a word of which BDAG says, "to conform to a pattern or mold," and this is how the English word "schematic" functions. "World" is not kosmos, but aion, which here has the understanding of "the spirit of this age," parallel with the German and colloquial, zeitgeist, meaning, "the dominant set of ideals and beliefs that motivate the actions of the members of a society in a particular period in time."
The word "transformed" (metamorphao) comes from a Greek word that is the basis for the English word, metamorphosis. Metamorphosis is external, like what we see when a caterpillar turns into a butterfly, which is radical difference. You can really, really tell a difference when something is transformed, and it affects what you see.
In the last part of Romans 12:2, Paul writes, "that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." "Prove" is the Greek word, dokimazo, which is the word used for testing metals. Everything in this present world, this system, needs to be tested as a Christian according to scripture. The "renewing of the mind" that transforms the believer on the outside comes from hearing, understanding, and meditating upon the Word of God.
God expects us to test things in the world according to scriptural thinking. The standard is the good, acceptable, and perfect will of God. The world shouldn't be setting the pace for believers, even if they insist that it's innocent. Believers of the past could easily judge pink hair on men or whatever number of unnatural technicolor hair pigmentation on women. It wouldn't have even happened. If it did, it would have been an easy call for people of most ages. This present age is different. Why?
The abandonment of discernment, the unwillingness to judge itself, for evangelicals has followed the spirit of the age, which is one of toleration. People don't want to be judged. They want to fit in with the world. They don't like sticking out. I understand the pink hair sticks out anywhere, but not really in the world anymore. Evangelicals have amped up, brought the juice, to professing Christians conforming to the world, but it isn't new. The prophet Zephaniah in the Old Testament book by its name writes in 1:8:
God wants application of scripture to such things as dress. He wants pastors, church leaders, to say certain dress is wrong. There doesn't have to be a verse about an unusual earlobe piercing that stretches the cartilage beyond comprehension. You know it's wrong and you should say something about it, because God doesn't want it. The pastoral epistles talk about dress. Pastors are supposed to teach on it, exhort, rebuke, and discipline people. It matters.
If someone who calls himself a Christian wears a type of very bright pink hair, he's not representing Jesus Christ. Like Paul mentions in Titus 2:10, "adorn[ing] the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things." The word "adorn" isn't intended as a dress word, but it doesn't exclude it either. The Greek word is kosmeo, like cosmetics, which is about appearance. Our appearance should fit scripture, not the world. It reminds me of the part of 1 Corinthians 13 in a description of love, that love "doth not behave itself unseemly." That English translates a Greek word has the same root as "conformed" in Romans 12:2. BDAG says concerning this form of the word:
The person wearing the optic pink hair is drawing the wrong kind of attention to himself, male or female. His thinking is wrong. It isn't scripture. There is something wrong with this person that is manifesting itself with the hair coloration.
If someone confronts the pink haired person, and he isn't interested in listening to the counsel, this wouldn't surprise me. This is a person who is contrary to a standard. Like the apostate of 2 Peter 2, Peter describes in v. 10:
To Be Continued
The point of my first post was not to isolate the single issue of optic hair coloring, whether men or women. It is that scripture doesn't say, "Thou shalt not dye thy hair with iridescent hues." There are great number of prohibitive activities the Bible doesn't prohibit. God's Word is intended to be applied. Men are supposed to live it, because it can be lived. Being lived requires application.
Separatists for awhile have been applying scripture to such things as dress. The Bible teaches on dress. Scripture is sufficient for every area of life. On many areas that Christians applied scripture through history, evangelicals stopped applying, especially in areas of what has been called personal separation, which relate to worldliness. For believers to worship God, that is, "present [their] bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God (Rom 12:1), they must obey two imperatives, commands, in Romans 12:2, "be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind."
"Conformed" is external and "transformed" is external. Both look like something that has to be judged, and the assumption is that believers can judge and should judge. "Conformed" (suschematizo) comes from a word of which BDAG says, "to conform to a pattern or mold," and this is how the English word "schematic" functions. "World" is not kosmos, but aion, which here has the understanding of "the spirit of this age," parallel with the German and colloquial, zeitgeist, meaning, "the dominant set of ideals and beliefs that motivate the actions of the members of a society in a particular period in time."
The word "transformed" (metamorphao) comes from a Greek word that is the basis for the English word, metamorphosis. Metamorphosis is external, like what we see when a caterpillar turns into a butterfly, which is radical difference. You can really, really tell a difference when something is transformed, and it affects what you see.
In the last part of Romans 12:2, Paul writes, "that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." "Prove" is the Greek word, dokimazo, which is the word used for testing metals. Everything in this present world, this system, needs to be tested as a Christian according to scripture. The "renewing of the mind" that transforms the believer on the outside comes from hearing, understanding, and meditating upon the Word of God.
God expects us to test things in the world according to scriptural thinking. The standard is the good, acceptable, and perfect will of God. The world shouldn't be setting the pace for believers, even if they insist that it's innocent. Believers of the past could easily judge pink hair on men or whatever number of unnatural technicolor hair pigmentation on women. It wouldn't have even happened. If it did, it would have been an easy call for people of most ages. This present age is different. Why?
The abandonment of discernment, the unwillingness to judge itself, for evangelicals has followed the spirit of the age, which is one of toleration. People don't want to be judged. They want to fit in with the world. They don't like sticking out. I understand the pink hair sticks out anywhere, but not really in the world anymore. Evangelicals have amped up, brought the juice, to professing Christians conforming to the world, but it isn't new. The prophet Zephaniah in the Old Testament book by its name writes in 1:8:
And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.Vincent Alsop was an English nonconformist preacher, who preached and wrote, The Sinfulness of Strange Apparel. I recognize that pink hair is strange from a certain meaning of strange, or maybe we should say that it should be strange everywhere. However, strange would go right along with worldly. It is technically "foreign," but strange apparel was to dress like ungodly pagans. You can see in the verse that was very serious to God. He would punish His people for clothing with strange apparel. Romans 12:2 is akin to that -- I don't think they are different. If God is going to punish people for their dress (not just their attitude about clothing), then leaders should be warning them about it too, out of love.
God wants application of scripture to such things as dress. He wants pastors, church leaders, to say certain dress is wrong. There doesn't have to be a verse about an unusual earlobe piercing that stretches the cartilage beyond comprehension. You know it's wrong and you should say something about it, because God doesn't want it. The pastoral epistles talk about dress. Pastors are supposed to teach on it, exhort, rebuke, and discipline people. It matters.
If someone who calls himself a Christian wears a type of very bright pink hair, he's not representing Jesus Christ. Like Paul mentions in Titus 2:10, "adorn[ing] the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things." The word "adorn" isn't intended as a dress word, but it doesn't exclude it either. The Greek word is kosmeo, like cosmetics, which is about appearance. Our appearance should fit scripture, not the world. It reminds me of the part of 1 Corinthians 13 in a description of love, that love "doth not behave itself unseemly." That English translates a Greek word has the same root as "conformed" in Romans 12:2. BDAG says concerning this form of the word:
[R]efers to something that has a pattern or form, frequently of a type that the public considers standard or laudable; to act contary to the standard.Love doesn't act contrary to a pattern or form that the public considers standard or laudable. The world might wear pink hair, but it isn't standard or laudable.
The person wearing the optic pink hair is drawing the wrong kind of attention to himself, male or female. His thinking is wrong. It isn't scripture. There is something wrong with this person that is manifesting itself with the hair coloration.
If someone confronts the pink haired person, and he isn't interested in listening to the counsel, this wouldn't surprise me. This is a person who is contrary to a standard. Like the apostate of 2 Peter 2, Peter describes in v. 10:
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.If someone won't take counsel to change his hair color from the oddity that it is, he also has a problem with authority. The church should do something about this kind of violation of the application of scripture. It is factious behavior, the kind that Titus 3:10-11 talks about that is to be warned and then separated from.
To Be Continued
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