tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post8207108012896738523..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: Ehrman-White DebateKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-22580179010407899822017-05-15T16:07:11.374-07:002017-05-15T16:07:11.374-07:00Thanks KJB1611 but I never claimed to be trying to...Thanks KJB1611 but I never claimed to be trying to refute Christianity. I merely asked how one could claim that the original autographs are inerrant when no one extant has ever seen these documents. You're claiming to have knowledge of documents you have never seen! Your belief that God cannot lie is based in the revelatory text of the Bible. Your belief that the bible is inerrant is based in your belief that God cannot lie. Classic circular reasoning, as I have pointed out before. <br />As of yet, no one has shown me a copy of the originals, yet they claim to "know" they were inerrant. Sorry but you are expressing a position of faith, not a position of knowledge. Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-38640431207566219352017-05-15T13:06:25.602-07:002017-05-15T13:06:25.602-07:00Dear Kevin,
There is absolutely nothing absurd ab...Dear Kevin,<br /><br />There is absolutely nothing absurd about believing that a God who cannot lie gave revelation that contains no errors/lies. God does not have to perpetually perform a miracle to keep normal processes of decay from taking place on the original parchment to prevent such a belief from being absurd. You will have to do better than this to refute Christianity. Thanks.KJB1611https://www.blogger.com/profile/09696273086955004524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-58931083061597339552017-05-13T15:38:44.663-07:002017-05-13T15:38:44.663-07:00Kent,
You claim the originals are inerrant? When a...Kent,<br />You claim the originals are inerrant? When and where did you see them to confirm this? I am very interested in seeing them myself. I am sure you are not claiming to know something about documents that you have not seen. That, of course, would be absurd. Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-82194059058912945122009-05-07T09:11:00.000-07:002009-05-07T09:11:00.000-07:00Mr. Anonymous comes in to make an accusation. Mr....Mr. Anonymous comes in to make an accusation. Mr. Coward. Read the introduction to Misquoting Jesus. Also read the Bible. You also don't know how the men in his business define inerrancy. So your accusation rings empty. <br /><br />Inerrancy according to all evangelical textual critics applies to the originals. He claims not to move people away from Christianity, but it is obvious that he is. He doesn't have a doctorate in philosophy or theology and yet he writes books recently on suffering? He's going out of his way to turn people. He's not a threat to a real Christian. A real Christian doesn't apostatize, which means, if you did know the Bible, that Ehrman was never a Christian. He is inconsistent in his application of his textual evidence. The Bible has more evidence than any and yet Ehrman believes that many other ancient texts were preserved. He comes to different conclusions based upon his own presuppositions. So you can sit back down now, Mr. Anonymous.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-89134970402149736112009-05-07T07:30:00.000-07:002009-05-07T07:30:00.000-07:00Your comments on Ehrman are flat out lies.
Ehrma...Your comments on Ehrman are flat out lies. <br /><br />Ehrman was an evangelical Christian who after learning Greek, Hebrew and Latin studied the ancient biblical manuscripts and found that there is NO WAY the Bible is inerrant he went from evangelical christian to a liberal christian and stayed that way for about 20 years until he became agnostic. If you actually read his books and his interviews you would know he is NOT trying to convert people into agnostics or atheist. He is extremely respectful to religion and religious people. <br /><br />If the evangelical Christians don't start backing up there claims with scientific facts their ignorant lies such as the infallibility of the Bible will eventually turn people away...like myself. Not just from being evangelical Christian but everything that is Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-4698488427536957312009-04-21T13:07:00.000-07:002009-04-21T13:07:00.000-07:00Ehrman is a "fraud"? Just because he doesn't beli...Ehrman is a "fraud"? Just because he doesn't believe in the supernatural? Or because he attempts to communicate rational thought to a targeted demographic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-55983955862286276972009-02-04T14:52:00.000-08:002009-02-04T14:52:00.000-08:00Kent,I'm sure White would hear you out w/o out the...Kent,<BR/><BR/>I'm sure White would hear you out w/o out the garrulous commentary if you phoned in tomorrow... ;D<BR/><BR/>OR you can shoot him or Alan an e-mail...Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963170918571560973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-2649759181492459562009-02-04T14:44:00.000-08:002009-02-04T14:44:00.000-08:00Adam,Thanks for the concern. I'd be glad to talk ...Adam,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the concern. I'd be glad to talk to James White, even in public, but I wouldn't do that without rules of engagement. I listened to his time with McDurmon and it sounded like a breathless monologue coming from White. That wouldn't accomplish much. What he should have is a comment section on his blog. That way I could at least clear it up without having to wait through the long speeches by White.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-83281891634453936862009-02-04T14:33:00.000-08:002009-02-04T14:33:00.000-08:00Kent,If you find that most of the "AO crowd" is mi...Kent,<BR/><BR/>If you find that most of the "AO crowd" is misrepresenting your position then perhaps you might want to take the inimitable James White to task tomorrow on his radio program. Here is the time and phone number: Thursday 4:00 MST 1-877-753-3341 (Toll Free).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-75520113770752318162009-02-04T11:34:00.000-08:002009-02-04T11:34:00.000-08:00Scribe,Thanks for the heads up, but I had already ...Scribe,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the heads up, but I had already read Alan's rant. I comment to it under my next post in the comment section. He's not very careful with what I wrote or what I believe. I'm finding this characteristic of the AO crowd. Again, thanks.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-67923720996941351352009-02-04T11:07:00.000-08:002009-02-04T11:07:00.000-08:00Kent,Alan Kurschner at aomin.org has noted a "few"...Kent,<BR/><BR/>Alan Kurschner at aomin.org has noted a "few" problematic areas in your blog entry that you may wish to look into: http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3109Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963170918571560973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-8486539551205140552009-02-03T23:13:00.000-08:002009-02-03T23:13:00.000-08:00Wow Anonymous. I hadn't reviewed it yet. I revie...Wow Anonymous. I hadn't reviewed it yet. I review only the comments. And notice that when I do, I put my name on it every time. Unlike you, won't say boo to a goose, milquetoast, pink lemonade. Oh, and my position is that the Greek and Hebrew text is inerrant. And inspiration is technically reserved for the originals, but derivatively for copies and translations. That is an application of, um, Scripture (read 2 Timothy 3:16).Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-36891729697779777832009-02-03T21:05:00.000-08:002009-02-03T21:05:00.000-08:00What kind of a blogger would review a debate he ha...What kind of a blogger would review a debate he has not heard? Probably the same kind of blogger who would believe that the KJV is inspired and inerrant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-14181323363895118202009-02-03T09:50:00.000-08:002009-02-03T09:50:00.000-08:00The reason Dr. White exposes Ehrman as a skeptic i...The reason Dr. White exposes Ehrman as a skeptic is to dispel the notion that Ehrman's studies are an objective analysis of textual transmission that can only lead the conclusion that the Bible 'misquotes' Jesus. That has been Ehrman's campaign in the media and it is evident in his books. Those who follow him believe he's done the work to prove such a thing. What White demonstrated during the debate (as well as before and after it) is that Ehrman is just hyper-skeptic, and following his own logic one could not even know what was said by Mohammed or Tacitus. I thought White did a decent job revealing that textual variants does not negate the authenticity of a document.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-81687458531755052752009-02-03T09:01:00.000-08:002009-02-03T09:01:00.000-08:00I've listened to the intro, both opening statement...I've listened to the intro, both opening statements, then Ehrman's first rebuttal. That's about half way. Thanks Terry.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-56174897109982982832009-02-03T01:07:00.000-08:002009-02-03T01:07:00.000-08:00I look forward to reading your comments about the ...I look forward to reading your comments about the debate.Terry McGovernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785714020219737129noreply@blogger.com