tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post7494299624918045888..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: An Irretrievable IronyKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-52639568183623810972013-05-02T10:16:04.465-07:002013-05-02T10:16:04.465-07:00Our former church start incorporating "Getty&...Our former church start incorporating "Getty" music. The first song they used was, "In Christ Alone". Now I'll admit, I like this song, but I couldn't sing it in church because when I hear this song I find myself swaying my hips to the beat. Now I'm not educated in music, but what some people have told me it's called the down beat that gives people this affect. I wouldn't call "Getty" music "rock", but I also wouldn't want it sung in church either.<br />TammyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-90109214580473920702013-04-07T13:25:09.015-07:002013-04-07T13:25:09.015-07:00Hi Will,
It was a rock band. The band itself wou...Hi Will,<br /><br />It was a rock band. The band itself would consider themselves a rock band. The drum player was on a trap set. There was the electric guitar. I don't even think that's up for challenge. It was soft rock, so perhaps only hard rock qualifies as "rocking" or "rocking out." Even if it wasn't "rocking," which it was, it was the rock rhythm (purposefully) with the causation of that rock feeling. It isn't the Holy Spirit.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-28220251347284602122013-04-06T22:26:08.036-07:002013-04-06T22:26:08.036-07:00This is not rock. I was there and there was no roc...This is not rock. I was there and there was no rocking out going on. If you were to tell real rockers that this is rock, they'd laugh at you. Just because there's drums and a guitar doesn't mean you have rock. William Duddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05044443293323182774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-77946697036205205612013-03-13T18:13:29.970-07:002013-03-13T18:13:29.970-07:00Kent: Sorry about the initials...that's why I...Kent: Sorry about the initials...that's why I signed my second post. I think you shouldn't allow anonymous. If people have something to say then they shouldn't be ashamed to identify themselves.DLFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18104833539913217819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-83831340664970606322013-03-13T13:16:58.884-07:002013-03-13T13:16:58.884-07:00Anonymous,
I don't know if you get it or not....Anonymous,<br /><br />I don't know if you get it or not. In other words, I don't know if you're a rebel or just ignorant. I would think the former, because this all seems so easy, but we're to a time where I don't think I can judge why. Ignorance is at least kinder. However, if you don't know the difference between joybells and rock music, then you are prepared to be deceived in a number of different ways.<br /><br />Everyone,<br /><br />I'm seriously thinking of making there a requirement to put your real name here if you're going to comment. So many of these types of comment are anonymous. I don't mind people disagreeing, but I do mind when they do like this and are anonymous. I don't mind anonymity if that's the rule, like over at Remonstrans, but here it isn't the rule.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-60511166925253662432013-03-13T13:12:31.796-07:002013-03-13T13:12:31.796-07:00George,
I agree with you.George,<br /><br />I agree with you.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-33301855566899005912013-03-13T13:12:10.899-07:002013-03-13T13:12:10.899-07:00Bro. Flaming,
Thanks for dropping by. I didn'...Bro. Flaming,<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by. I didn't know that abbreviation was you. Glad you're reading here. And thanks.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-72576749306722104972013-03-13T12:33:58.971-07:002013-03-13T12:33:58.971-07:00I for one actually watched the videos. I don't...I for one actually watched the videos. I don't see anything of "rock" in them. I didn't know we were suppose to stand perfectly at attention while singing and put no meaning into worshiping God. I'm sure in Heaven we won't show any excitement that we are singing to our Lord, Because we will somehow be "rocking" Did you actually listen to any of the words in those songs or did you just sit there critiquing the tune? I'm sorry but I would rather sing one of their songs they sang "Behold our God" seated on His throne Come let us adore Him, than "You May Have the Joybells" or "I want that mountain" which mentions Nothing about God.. I dont think Hes sitting up there saying "They aren't singing anything to worship me but Hey they only have a piano and organ playing and they aren't moving so thats all that counts." All those men there were probably singing to God and only God not worrying if their head was moving or hand was in the air because they were worshiping their Creator, and others sit in their churches singing with no meaning, songs that have nothing to do with Christ, but because its in our hymnal its okay. By the way, do you think in Bible times they only played an organ and piano? Do you think they carried that through the desert? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-477555546367787912013-03-13T07:03:15.874-07:002013-03-13T07:03:15.874-07:00In preparing for this evening's Bible Study I ...In preparing for this evening's Bible Study I considered that there are a great many Christians who consider themselves separated. They would'nt think of doing this or that. And yet they gossip and say things that hurt people. They listen to the world's music and engage in worldly activities never considering it as worldlly or unclean. Ecclesiastes 7:5 says, "It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools." This world's music is the "song of fools" God's children ought not to have any part in it. It is easy to talk about the things of God, to claim the Lord Jesus Christ as Saviour, to say we love Him, to consider ourselves separated unto Him, and still not in reality be separated from the world and separated unto Him.<br /><br />D. FlamingDLFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18104833539913217819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-35144099209139062352013-03-13T05:17:25.982-07:002013-03-13T05:17:25.982-07:00This is nothing more than Micah serving his false ...This is nothing more than Micah serving his false god for "10 shekels and a suit" (Judges 17). Put these false teachers and prophets all in one room and preach to them Judges 17 and 2 Peter 2.The Preacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555338497068482867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-56600629616815613872013-03-12T19:42:12.228-07:002013-03-12T19:42:12.228-07:00DLF,
Thanks for dropping by.
Joshua,
Thanks for...DLF,<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by.<br /><br />Joshua,<br /><br />Thanks for the good comment again. I've read the same about Trueman and Douglas Wilson. Maybe it's a Presbyterian thing, part of their understanding of the regulative principle. Your evaluation is right on, IMO, and actually as not an opinion.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-30477733978838885892013-03-12T15:37:42.513-07:002013-03-12T15:37:42.513-07:00From what I understand from reading Carl Trueman, ...From what I understand from reading Carl Trueman, he does indeed like his rock music but does not like the idea of using it for worship.<br /><br />I think he sees it as designed for the pleasure of man, and thus okay if used for that alone, but that therefore renders it unfit for the worship of God.<br /><br />Kind of like how we treat sport - it's fun, it's something you can do in your spare time, but it's not something you can do on Sunday to worship God. Essentially they view rock as non-moral, but of a lower quality that isn't really fit to use for worship.<br /><br />I've been running into a few folks like that lately - opposed to rock in church, but then when they jump into the car the radio turns straight to it.<br /><br />Like you pointed out though, I've never met anyone who liked rock music who was genuinely discriminating. They always end up singing along to some filthy lyric. It's clearly just an inordinate fleshly lust.Joshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-2812204003099004682013-03-12T15:07:36.135-07:002013-03-12T15:07:36.135-07:00From what I understand from reading Carl Trueman, ...From what I understand from reading Carl Trueman, he does indeed like his rock music but does not like the idea of using it for worship.<br /><br />I think he sees it as designed for the pleasure of man, and thus okay if used for that alone, but that therefore renders it unfit for the worship of God.<br /><br />Kind of like how we treat sport - it's fun, it's something you can do in your spare time, but it's not something you can do on Sunday to worship God. Essentially they view rock as non-moral, but of a lower quality that isn't really fit to use for worship.<br /><br />I've been running into a few folks like that lately - opposed to rock in church, but then when they jump into the car the radio turns straight to it.<br /><br />Like you pointed out though, I've never met anyone who liked rock music who was genuinely discriminating. They always end up singing along to some filthy lyric. It's clearly just an inordinate fleshly lust.Joshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-87888257642136143952013-03-12T07:50:00.172-07:002013-03-12T07:50:00.172-07:00“Believe me. That swaying is not caused by the Ho...“Believe me. That swaying is not caused by the Holy Spirit.”<br />This is of great concern to me as I deal with the folks under my ministry. In a former pastorate in a small western Kansas town, I had a woman from another church (charismatic) tell me that I should have been at their concert. The spirit was present and really moving. She thought she was talking about the Holy Spirit, but I knew better. Which brings me to the point of what the average Christian is most interested in--physical (fleshly) blessings or spiritual blessings? So many, including family members and church members are more interested in the “blessings” they receive from their CCM music or Southern Gospel quartet concerts. One of our greatest challenges is to teach people about separation and the battle between the flesh and the spirit. The majority of Christians are more concerned about physical things than that of spiritual things (e.g. the prayer requests at prayer meeting are overwhelmingly about sickness or physical needs).<br /><br />Thank you, Kent, for your thought provoking posts.<br />DLFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18104833539913217819noreply@blogger.com