tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post115629045873537927..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: Conversation BogglesKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1157254839370420972006-09-02T20:40:00.000-07:002006-09-02T20:40:00.000-07:00Ed. I don't know you, but thanks for coming over....Ed. I don't know you, but thanks for coming over. I don't think my feathers were too ruffled. Mainly questioning a standard of modesty over there, and they couldn't take that over at Pyro. SharperIron is just to the right of Pyro and I wasn't expecting to fit in there. However, they, the other guys, are the ones that want "unity" and "toleration," Ed. I am content, Ed. Did you know you're name is in the Bible, by the way?Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1157243781205222692006-09-02T17:36:00.000-07:002006-09-02T17:36:00.000-07:00I remember people getting their feathers ruffled o...I remember people getting their feathers ruffled over at Phil Johnson's blog because they could not identify with his and DJP's sense of humor. It is interesting to me that some of the same people had run-ins with SI. Can't be their approach can it? No...must be the other guy...<BR/><BR/>Ed HillinonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156386524992625652006-08-23T19:28:00.000-07:002006-08-23T19:28:00.000-07:00Well if make you feel any better, I will follow yo...Well if make you feel any better, I will follow you off the cliff Pastor Brandenburg :0)DaCatsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08940576017929388330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156376660589657192006-08-23T16:44:00.000-07:002006-08-23T16:44:00.000-07:00Very good anonymous, SP; got a big laugh at that o...Very good anonymous, SP; got a big laugh at that one, except it would have been a percentage funnier if you had said "lemmingade." Take that critique and drink it.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156374426157719482006-08-23T16:07:00.000-07:002006-08-23T16:07:00.000-07:00As the saying goes.. when the world gives you lemm...As the saying goes.. when the world gives you lemmings, make Lemmin'ade. ;*)<BR/><BR/>SPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156371593457253452006-08-23T15:19:00.000-07:002006-08-23T15:19:00.000-07:00Pastor Mallinak,Would you stop being so hard on me...Pastor Mallinak,<BR/>Would you stop being so hard on me? I'm a sensitive man. I do Kincaid puzzles. Yes, they are a free enterprise, and no shoes so no service. It was surprising to get kicked out of their store though, you know, so permanently without warning. He could have at least smacked his lips first to let me know he was coming. Does God promise protection to a blog like SharperIron?<BR/><BR/>Don,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting. I respect your doctrine of salvation, many of your old school views, and your SI self-imposed fast. Looking at your blog, your parenting seems like it may have succeeded too. Be well, and be free to comment any time.<BR/><BR/>And ILA,<BR/>It's hard talking with a shoe in my mouth.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156365188015223072006-08-23T13:33:00.000-07:002006-08-23T13:33:00.000-07:00" As the grave grows nearer my theology is growing..." As the grave grows nearer my theology is growing strangely simple, and it begins and ends with Christ as the only Savior of the lost".<BR/> Henry Benjamin Whipple<BR/><BR/>"I have seen gross intolerance shown in support of tolerance." <BR/> Samuel Taylor Coleridge<BR/><BR/>It's hard to fly like an eagle when you must ground with the turkeys. <BR/>The hardest thing in human nature to do is to remember to be sure your brain is in gear before your mouth goes in motion.<BR/><BR/>So, if you'll kindly excuse me, I need to check on mine..<BR/><BR/>ILAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156363935426201252006-08-23T13:12:00.000-07:002006-08-23T13:12:00.000-07:00Well, Pastor B, so you won't get to change the wor...Well, Pastor B, so you won't get to change the world through SI any more. Too bad. But that's okay, I'm still your friend, and would be even if you separated from me. <BR/><BR/>As much as we may not like this fact, SI is a big-time blog, and they have the right to run their blog however they want. If they don't like somebody, they can kick them off. They don't need a reason. If we don't like that, I guess we will have to come up with a blog that is as big as theirs. And since I am doing good to type and hit (sometimes find) the submit button, I guess it won't be me doing it. <BR/><BR/>If you dance, you must pay the piper. Maybe you should have spent more time doing Thomas Kinkaid puzzles. It might have softened you around the edges more.Dave Mallinakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01251231774542596620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156314431187578922006-08-22T23:27:00.000-07:002006-08-22T23:27:00.000-07:00Face it, Kent, you are a lemming. But, then, some...Face it, Kent, you are a lemming. But, then, some of my best friends are lemmings...<BR/><BR/>Sorry, lame attempt at humour.<BR/><BR/>I really wish the rancour over differing theological positions would end. Certain issues seem to become hot button issues and cannot be discussed reasonably at all. And I'm not just talking about the versions issue.<BR/><BR/>I think there are at least two things going on that causes this: First, some people, arguing for or against a position are willing to use all kinds of hateful rhetoric and try to stir up trouble over a particular issue. (This is on both sides of any issue.) Those on the receiving end start to hear ANYONE arguing for the other position as using the same hateful rhetoric, and they become predisposed to hear the hatefulness, no matter how mildly someone may think they are speaking. From there, things spiral out of control.<BR/><BR/>I am personally on a self-imposed SI holiday, so I don't know specifically what you are referring to. But from the comments here, it sounds all too familiar.<BR/><BR/>I hope that in our exchanges we have been able to discuss things fairly rationally. I don't think we changed each other's point of view much, but I think I came to a more complete understanding of what you were saying in our Dt 22 discussion.<BR/><BR/>I think that the second reason for some of the rancour in fundamentalism (or wherever you are, I know you don't take the label!) has to do with the "all or nothing" point of view that some take. In the versions issue, it is very easy to throw around the label 'heretic' and run around separating from others. I recall a guy who argued for the KJV writing me a letter to announce that he had seperated from me. The funny thing (to me) is that I have never met him. He lives over 400 miles away. I wouldn't know him if I ran into him. I am not quite sure what has changed as a result of this letter. There are others on the non-KJV side that are trying to define all pro-KJV guys out of fundamentalism, so this cuts both ways.<BR/><BR/>I am fairly sympathetic to the point of view of the pro-KJV guys, and I think I can understand where they are coming from. They see the proliferation of versions (many of them really bad) and see this as an attack of the devil. And they have a point. Since they have a point, they begin to look with suspicion at those who would entertain the use of ANY other version, whether they are the really bad ones or the (perhaps) less bad ones. On the other hand, I suspect that a lot of those guys who want to cut off the pro-KJV guys are not really coming at this from a fundamentalist perspective. In other words, the suspicions of the pro-KJV camp are often quite correct. There is a lot of posing going on, with guys who are essentially wanting to be evangelicals, but somehow not wanting to shed the fundy label.<BR/><BR/>So with all of these things going on, I think we end up with a lot of suspicion and acrimony.<BR/><BR/>Ok, I better quit. I think I am starting to ramble. I mentioned I am on an SI holiday, I won't be back there until at least Sept 11. In the meantime, I am taking a hand at 'practice' blogging. You can check it out here if you like:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ebaptist.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Anyway, you can post this or not if you like, I don't want to stir up controversy you know! I've reformed! (Sorta). But I have enjoyed discussing subjects with you, even though we don't always see eye to eye.<BR/><BR/>God bless.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Don Johnson<BR/>Jer 33.3Don Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332212749734904541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156297826664916162006-08-22T18:50:00.000-07:002006-08-22T18:50:00.000-07:00Thanks Derek. I guess you guessed what this was a...Thanks Derek. I guess you guessed what this was about. I will look at your blog. I think we have good evidence for our position, and I want people to know it. I do speak authoritatively, but that comes from 19 years of pastoring. I've noticed other pastors the same way, but if you are on the other side of an issue, some, younger men, more emotional about these things, take it personally.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1156296948781469062006-08-22T18:35:00.000-07:002006-08-22T18:35:00.000-07:00Sorry all this has transpired over an article post...Sorry all this has transpired over an article posted on SI that I thought was not even supposed to be discussed. They said they would not allow that issue to be discussed because of the flares it causes and they posted it anyway and look what happened. I posted a response to the article on my blog and hope that it gets read. I think those not for the TR/KJV are more hostile than those who are for it. Why might that be? Could it be that deep down inside they know they are wrong and are not willing to face it and therefore have to get defensive and mean about it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com