tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post114366014194245666..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: You Just Like to ArgueKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1145594204867569992006-04-20T21:36:00.000-07:002006-04-20T21:36:00.000-07:00You have a problem in Acts 2:38 with your grammar....You have a problem in Acts 2:38 with your grammar. Acts 2:38 says "Repent," 2nd person plural, and then "be baptized," 3rd person singular. You must interpret Scripture in light of the grammar. He called on all of them to Repent, and then of the group that repented, individuals should be baptized. He did not call on all of them to be baptized. Baptism is not part of the gospel, since not once does Scripture tell us that we are condemned for not being baptized, only for not believing.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Simon, Simon proves that there is a faith that does not save. James 2 indicates people have a faith that does not save, a dead faith, and John 2 talks about people making ap profession of faith without saving faith.<BR/><BR/>We didn't discuss Simon because no one can lose his salvation and Simon didn't. He was never saved in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Romans 6 doesn't say we are placed into His death by baptism. why not be silent where the Bible is silent? It says we are baptized into his death. "Into" (eis) shows identification, the person identifies publically with Christ's death, burial, and resurrection when he is baptized.<BR/><BR/>Question for you: If you can lose your salvation, then who is doing the saving? Another question, is every person justified glorified? Another question: Once the woman at the well drank of the water of life Christ offered, would she ever need to drink again (John 4)? And then, can someone be removed from the holy city once he has entered (Rev. 22:18, 19)?Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1145588691161513772006-04-20T20:04:00.000-07:002006-04-20T20:04:00.000-07:00Rebaptized for every sin after contacting the bloo...Rebaptized for every sin after contacting the blood? I think not. It is the blood of Christ and immersion into Christ that are for the remission of sins (Mt. 26:28; Acts 2:38), since it is the blood which washes away sins (Acts 22:16; Rev. 1:5). <BR/><BR/>I just received the Brandenburg-Hafley debate, but have not yet watched all of it. That being said, I am unsure whether the 2 men discussed the conversion of Simon the sorcerer in Acts chapter 8.<BR/><BR/>Whether you believe baptism saves a person or not, those who maintain either position ought to deem Simon a saved man (Acts 8:13) since he believeth that which Philip was preaching (Acts 8:5). So, Simon became a Christian.<BR/><BR/>But, Simon fell into sin (thus, a sinning Christian) as we read in Acts 8:18-21 - for his heart was not right in the sight of God. In Acts 8:22-23, the apostle Peter instructs Simon to "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity".<BR/><BR/>If Simon's iniquity (which he was in) did not affect his soul, then why the command to repent? Didn't Jesus say "...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:3)?<BR/><BR/>Simon was not commanded to be rebaptized. Simon was told to repent of thy wickedness. Further, 1 John 1:8-10 shows that we must make our sins known to God and He is just to forgive us.<BR/><BR/>Immersion places one into His death (Romans 6:3-6) to contact the blood. But, if we sin, as Simon did in Acts 8, we must make it known before God and repent.<BR/><BR/>I am interested to see how the 2 men addressed Simon in Acts 8 in the debate, if they discusssed this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143697449876105642006-03-29T21:44:00.000-08:002006-03-29T21:44:00.000-08:00Brother McGovern,I've referred to that verse in co...Brother McGovern,<BR/><BR/>I've referred to that verse in conjunction with 1 John 2:19 and 3:6. Never had it in the first place is our position and that fits well with Mt. 7. Thanks for your prayers.<BR/><BR/>Juan,<BR/><BR/>The Aqua Man thing was funny; we were thinking that Atlantis would be the New Jerusalem for Campbellites.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143696166444967502006-03-29T21:22:00.000-08:002006-03-29T21:22:00.000-08:00Pastor, here is an idea. Have an "AQUA MAN" and "A...Pastor, here is an idea. Have an "AQUA MAN" and "ATLANTIS" slide.<BR/>JuanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143678903199799352006-03-29T16:35:00.000-08:002006-03-29T16:35:00.000-08:00One verse I have always loved in relation to etern...One verse I have always loved in relation to eternal security is Mathew 7:23. (Of course, there are dozens of good verses teaching the doctrine.) <BR/><BR/>In context Matthew 7:23 is dealing with judgment day. Notice Jesus said, "...I NEVER knew you:" Not I knew you three or four times and you died in a lost state after one sin that dealt with salvation."<BR/><BR/>He never knew them!<BR/><BR/>I will pray the Lord gives you wisdom for Thurday night.Terry McGovernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785714020219737129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143666758454238902006-03-29T13:12:00.000-08:002006-03-29T13:12:00.000-08:00So would that make Aqua Man the most saved? Would...So would that make Aqua Man the <B>most</B> saved? Would Atlantis be a "state of grace"?Jason Hodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15851006336409075917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143665921476651222006-03-29T12:58:00.000-08:002006-03-29T12:58:00.000-08:00I don't think they think so. A big dilemma is als...I don't think they think so. A big dilemma is also what to do with all those passages that teach we can't lose it and that no passage teaches that we can.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1143660636023132962006-03-29T11:30:00.000-08:002006-03-29T11:30:00.000-08:00Your "Pong" with Mr. Hafley brings up an interesti...Your "Pong" with Mr. Hafley brings up an interesting dilemma for him. If baptism saves you, but one sin causes you to lose it, must one be baptized after every sin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com