tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post114076483072733751..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: Bodily Exercise Profiteth LittleKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-74983644965812723362017-01-03T10:34:24.316-08:002017-01-03T10:34:24.316-08:00Physical training is good but training for godines...Physical training is good but training for godinessis much better in this life and in life to comeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-68114766946009011332012-03-06T03:55:06.782-08:002012-03-06T03:55:06.782-08:00Its no sin to be overweight. It is a sin to be glu...Its no sin to be overweight. It is a sin to be gluttoneous and lack self control but these aren't mutually exclusive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-46647050546657864542011-01-18T12:54:57.385-08:002011-01-18T12:54:57.385-08:00Thanks anonymous,
I went to think about your post...Thanks anonymous,<br /><br />I went to think about your post but then realized that I didn't know if you preached like Spurgeon or evangelized like Moody. I also don't know if you sang like Maria Carey or ran like Carl Lewis, and other important tests in the Bible to discern whether a teaching should be given credibility. <br /><br />Please report your fastest time, a song recording, street preaching vid and examplar sermon so I can determine if you have any credibility.Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-40028368705715300072011-01-16T12:24:52.645-08:002011-01-16T12:24:52.645-08:00Point taken. However, when you preach like Spurgeo...Point taken. However, when you preach like Spurgeon and evangelize like Moody, you'll have more credibility to write stuff like this. I've also heard of a thing called a critical spirit . . .<br /><br />Torrey had an amazing comment about why God used Moody. That, in itself, should humble us and wonder why we aren't used that way.<br /><br />Some men's sins go before them, other sins trail behind. All will be revealed. Let's not be embarrassed by what will be revealed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140901241050736162006-02-25T13:00:00.000-08:002006-02-25T13:00:00.000-08:00If your conscience is clear, Cathy, you really hav...If your conscience is clear, Cathy, you really have nothing to defend, because no one has even judged you here on anything. And then, how do you know that pastors don't know about issues like bulimia and anorexia in their people? That's also something that no one truly has the capacity to judge. I don't understand a few of your statements; for instance, your last two. Do you know of a Baptist pastor who expects his people to come to him and explain why they are "fat?" I think an article like this one is the kind of thing sufficient enough to get someone thinking about their own diet and discipline. When you study the root cause of bulimia and anorexia, lots of good pastors preach on those subjects regularly, especially if they preach expositionally, since the Bible adequately covers everything we need.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140888521164225082006-02-25T09:28:00.000-08:002006-02-25T09:28:00.000-08:00How could most pastors know that anorexia or bulim...How could most pastors know that anorexia or bulima was a problem if most parents/spouses don't know about it? It is often called the secret illness.<BR/><BR/>Being overweight also maybe secondary to medical conditons, I know less then 1% of the time. But to false judge someone because they are fat, is inexcusable. I personally am overweight, but I have a medical problem that leads to that. I shouldn' have to go to my pastor and explain to him why I am fat. I also shouldn't have to worry about him thinking it is because i'm lazy or I have no self discipline.DaCatsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08940576017929388330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140882126702794052006-02-25T07:42:00.000-08:002006-02-25T07:42:00.000-08:00I don't know if you are still checking here, Pasto...I don't know if you are still checking here, Pastor Mitchell, but thank you for your comments. Now, Cathy, how are you exhorting pastors, exactly? Is it about preaching against bulimia, etc.? Most pastors would know if individuals in churches have that problem, and at least in my experience, overweight is the bigger problem. And yes, I was going after at least Christian leaders, ones who are taking a lot of responsibility in their individual local churches.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140842311284891722006-02-24T20:38:00.000-08:002006-02-24T20:38:00.000-08:00Have you ever heard the term "That thing is heavie...Have you ever heard the term "That thing is heavier then a dead preacher"? ;0)<BR/><BR/><BR/>So Pastor Voegtlin if this is meant only to exhort pastors, what I am saying also can be used to exhort pastors as well, unless of course simple lay people don't have the spiritual ability to exhort pastors.DaCatsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08940576017929388330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140811025632432072006-02-24T11:57:00.000-08:002006-02-24T11:57:00.000-08:00Lots of good comments. I agree with everybody. I...Lots of good comments. I agree with everybody. I agree with further context to 1 Timothy 4:8, to big bodies, to bulimia, to anorexia, to licking plates, to hitting preachers more than anyone else in particular, and even more. I haven't actually ever heard a message preached on overeating. I've never preached one. I've mentioned it in other sermons in a very, very sensitive way. I have also preached on the other eating disorders at one time or another. I have what I call BP, bloat potential. My metabolism has slooooowed down and I can eat a chip and gain four pounds. If I create enough heat here, maybe it could work like a sauna, and we could sweat off some weight.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140797386645697052006-02-24T08:09:00.000-08:002006-02-24T08:09:00.000-08:00OK. I've tried to stay away from commenting--but ...OK. I've tried to stay away from commenting--but just this once. ;)<BR/><BR/>First, I do preach against anorexia and bulimia. I am pastoring a lot of young people and I am aware that these are tremendous problems in our society and even in our churches.<BR/><BR/>Second, I am 5'9". I weigh 165 lbs. I run. I lift weights. I exercise. I generally eat like a pig, but lately I've been trying to be a little wiser. Before I lifted weights I really ate like a pig and weighed 140 lbs. That's right. I had NO discipline concerning diet and weighed 140 lbs. <BR/><BR/>The greatest man I know, on the other hand, consistently eats in a very disciplined manner and exercises. He has struggled with weight all of his life and currently weighs in at about 270 lbs. and standing 5'9". He has massive calf muscles, a tremendous neck, wrists that are as big around as my arms, and a chest cavity that is massive compared to mine. No, he is not a body-builder and he doesn't look like one. He is built very big! He is overweight, but he is also naturally a very big man, and his weight is not related to lack of discipline or lack of exercise. Now, he carries himself extremely well, is always dressed impeccably, and looks like a handsome big man. He is not at all sloppy or slobby. <BR/><BR/>Now, this man's wife can eat like a vacuum cleaner. She'll finish her meal, his meal, and lick the serving bowl clean. She weighs about 110 lbs. She is tiny. <BR/><BR/>Do you get the point?<BR/><BR/>I am the son of these two. Guess which one I take after in this regard?<BR/><BR/>I think we must acknowledge that there are definitely factors beyond our control that contribute to body-type, body-size, and body-weight.<BR/><BR/>In the context of 1 Timothy 4:8 the "bodily exercise" refers back to "commanding to abstain from meats and forbidding to marry." However, I would agree that we can safely make an application to exercise in the sense of "working out." <BR/><BR/>Conclusion to my little soap-box speech: It is wise to eat right and exercise. I would agree that it does profit a little. We must also acknowledge that there are differences in the physical make-up and build of people that result in different issues regarding weight and size.<BR/><BR/>Well, I'm off to the gym . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140785291578183192006-02-24T04:48:00.000-08:002006-02-24T04:48:00.000-08:00I think this article was particularly aimed at pre...I think this article was particularly aimed at preachers or pastors. Since you are in the medical field you see both sides of the spectrum. Those of us in the pastoral field (the one with grass in it and fences around it ;-), pretty much only see the fat side of the spectrum. This is a much needed exhortation, especially for pastors.Jeff Voegtlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718288010688756299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1140770470660642672006-02-24T00:41:00.000-08:002006-02-24T00:41:00.000-08:00As a RN in the pediatric field, I see both sides o...As a RN in the pediatric field, I see both sides of the spectum. I will be the first to admit that being overweight is not healthy, but being underweight, anorexia and bulima isn't healthy either and has far worse health outcomes.<BR/><BR/>My question is, Why don't pastors preach against anorexia or bulima?DaCatsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08940576017929388330noreply@blogger.com