tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post4441455438839426659..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: America Is NOT A Christian NationKent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-80114353021661970142016-04-08T12:15:24.259-07:002016-04-08T12:15:24.259-07:00Jim,
I never answered, but I agree.
Joe,
I pret...Jim,<br /><br />I never answered, but I agree.<br /><br />Joe,<br /><br />I pretty much agree with you. I can't say I disagree. I get the libertarian thing, truly, Rand and Ron type stuff. I would like to see what that looks like happening. I don't think it will, but would be better by far than the last 24 years, yes, 24 -- two Clinton, two Bush, two Obama, and now what?Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-37092258047340812792016-04-08T11:36:43.731-07:002016-04-08T11:36:43.731-07:00It is a waste of time to look for politicians who ...It is a waste of time to look for politicians who will champion the Christian faith in office. What we need is politicians who will champion the Constitution. <br /><br />The Bible tells us to pray for our authorities so that we may lead a "quiet and peaceable life." I think this is part of the view of good government in the Bible - one that enables its people to lead a quiet and peaceable life. I think an implication of this is the superiority of limited government over against big government.<br /><br />To stir the pot: the GOP is quickly becoming anti-limited-government. Christians may find themselves needing to vote for Libertarian candidates who (though socially liberal) will defend us from Big Brother.<br /><br />Thoughts?Joe Cassadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11332557908306763199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-75186887361460800672016-04-02T09:00:35.643-07:002016-04-02T09:00:35.643-07:00A little late to the party,& maybe a little of...A little late to the party,& maybe a little off topic, but I did desire to add a thought or two...<br />I have Bro. Ted Alexander in at our church almost every year & greatly appreciate his ministry. While here last year, he made a statement I heartily agree with. He said, (roughly) that some men have bought into a warped from of British Israelism with America replacing Britain. I was trained among guys who held "God save America" conferences regularly. After a number of years, I gave up on all this hooey. America is not "God's country", & the Lord has no reason to save it. As patriotic as I am, we are still just another Gentile nation of sinners. (I'm considering starting a "God save Armenia" rally!?) We have Liberty of conscience here, which is the big difference. I very much agree with Bro. Brandenburg that we should view ourselves as missionaries. I think that is all we are.JimCamp65https://www.blogger.com/profile/08293018820976464851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-83974604885603138732016-04-01T16:48:15.309-07:002016-04-01T16:48:15.309-07:00Thomas,
Thanks. I read the Beller book. This is...Thomas,<br /><br />Thanks. I read the Beller book. This is something I learned in college too. I think you can be your position without being David Barton. I was arguing presuppositionally, since the Declaration starts with God as Creator and the only consistent view of God as Creator is a biblical worldview, which is a Christian worldview.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-4579682732700586172016-04-01T15:26:37.872-07:002016-04-01T15:26:37.872-07:00I read a short book by Ted Alexander "America...I read a short book by Ted Alexander "American Foundations LAID BY THE BAPTISTS" (I also highly recommend "America in Crimson Red" by James R. Beller) Brother Ted presents a strong case on how our nation was influenced by the Baptist. Indeed the Rhode Island Charter granting liberty of conscience made the Baptist community the freest city-state in the world at that time. The idea of Liberty of Conscience is distinctly a Baptist hallmark. The large voting block in Virginia influenced Madison and Jefferson. One can safely say that the First Amendment to our Constitution is due to the lobbying efforts of the Virginia Baptists. The United States is a nation that has been given liberty, a battle ground of free exercise. The first Jewish Synagogue was a few blocks away from the first Baptist church in America in Rhode Island. <br /><br />BTW - I don't hold to David Barton Reconstructionist Reformed views of Christianity or his notoriously slanted view of USA history.<br />Pastor Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670626356324277515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-13275004883200066292016-03-31T13:09:49.340-07:002016-03-31T13:09:49.340-07:00There's no such thing.
A Christian is a redee...There's no such thing.<br /><br />A Christian is a redeemed, regenerated believer in Jesus Christ. <br /><br />The only Christian nation that exists in Scripture is the one described in I Peter 2:9, and that is not one of the nations of this world.<br /><br />When we talk about whether this earthly nation, or that earthly nation, is a "Christian" nation, we are using a Biblical term ("Christian") but we are not using it in any way the Scripture ever uses it. Thus, there is no way to Biblically answer the question, "Is this a Christian nation?" So then we have to answer it extra-Biblically, by using ours or someone else's made up definition of "Christian nation" which hasn't come from Scripture. And then we end up, I fear, arguing about words to no profit.Jon Gleasonhttp://www.mindrenewers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-20394239931244845822016-03-29T12:11:17.066-07:002016-03-29T12:11:17.066-07:00Ok, Bro. B,
What is a Christian nation?
Ok, Bro. B, <br /><br />What is a Christian nation?<br /><br />d4v34xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346680257860879900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-46461731432115460302016-03-29T05:20:20.664-07:002016-03-29T05:20:20.664-07:00I don't think America has ever been a Christia...I don't think America has ever been a Christian nation. Although I guess I'm not sure whatt the definition of that term is. Certainly there have been times when Christian thought/principles have been a major, perhaps even the primary) influence in American culture and politics. But I doubt that the US ever had a majority population of genuine believers. d4v34xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346680257860879900noreply@blogger.com