tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post2026817072745910109..comments2023-12-22T08:29:29.230-08:00Comments on WHAT IS TRUTH: An Honest Basic Assessment of Independent Baptists, pt. 3Kent Brandenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-59863468101728590112015-05-06T14:00:12.295-07:002015-05-06T14:00:12.295-07:00"Dead" was was hasty without further exp..."Dead" was was hasty without further explanation. I was trying to be brief.<br /><br />For those preaching a false gospel, dead is fair. Let them be accursed.<br /><br />The rest are compromised, and their head is not Christ. Let me give an example. A couple I knew was big in a church I attended. Husband was running the christian school, doing a lot of preaching. They were BJ loyalist.<br /><br />At that time BJ was under fire for their position in "interracial" marriage. BJ3 was going on TV to talk about it. The man and his wife made sure everyone knew that they supported the position and it was a Biblical position, and called for prayer for BJ3 as he went on TV.<br /><br />Then, lo and behold, BJ3 went on Larry King and changed the position. The next time we were in church, these evangelists were making sure everyone knew they supported the changed position, and it was Biblical position. Biblical to them was whatever "The College" did.<br /><br />Their head was not Jesus, but "The College". This reminiscent of most of the rest of the 90% that is not teaching a false gospel. They follow something other than the Word of God.Farmer Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09637851494862726991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-44248553917811666452015-05-06T05:45:46.482-07:002015-05-06T05:45:46.482-07:00">90% of IBs are dead
How are they dead? ...">90% of IBs are dead<br /><br />How are they dead? Dead to what?<br /><br />Please explain.The Preacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555338497068482867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-1331581940607216262015-05-05T20:01:33.877-07:002015-05-05T20:01:33.877-07:00Appreciate the clarification on the name issue. I ...Appreciate the clarification on the name issue. I agree with what you have laid out. <br /><br />You said "IBs are the most consistently aligned with the teaching and practice of the Bible". I would like to turn that on its head and say, "Churches aligned with with the teaching and practice of the Bible are most consistently IB"<br /><br />We travel a lot, and always try to find a church. We start with all the IB churches in the area. Then we cut the Hyles, BJ, CT, Calvinist, GARB, SBC, and other association churches. Then we dump the rockers, women led churches, race baiters, jew haters, and other aberrations. That leaves less than 10% of the original sample. Usually what remains is a great church.<br /><br />The point is if we start with 20 churches, we might find 2 that are worth visiting. We have done this maybe 50 times over the last 6-7 years, and the less than 10% number has been valid all over the country. Except one SBC church (nothing else within 50 miles), the only good churches have been IB, but >90% of IBs are dead. Hence the reversed statement.Farmer Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09637851494862726991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-53130680890644052062015-05-05T18:21:15.113-07:002015-05-05T18:21:15.113-07:00I'm very interested to see your definition of ...I'm very interested to see your definition of the "false gospel" in independent Baptist circles . . . !Tyler Robbinshttp://www.faithbaptistdivernon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-23426485349852999282015-05-05T14:43:52.100-07:002015-05-05T14:43:52.100-07:00Thanks Thomas.
Lance,
Thanks. I'm using rev...Thanks Thomas.<br /><br />Lance,<br /><br />Thanks. I'm using revivalist in a technical way, which is also how the dictionary defines it. I'm sure that Paul wasn't a revivalist in the dictionary sense, just the opposite.<br /><br />My generalization, categorizing independent Baptists into mainly two groups, is my honest basic assessment. Some don't fit, I would agree, which why it is general. I didn't fit you into either of the two groups, because I don't see you as fitting either. I'm not BJU or revivalist, and I'm independent Baptist. I did not lump all independent Baptists together though, because they are different mainly in the way I characterized it. I was reading somewhere else "Sword of the Lord" and BJU. This was written in 2008 by a presbyterian evaluating independent Baptists. I didn't see that until after what I wrote.Kent Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419354741455959191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-9749296620571738722015-05-05T09:38:13.958-07:002015-05-05T09:38:13.958-07:00Brother Brandenberg,
I think you need to be more s...Brother Brandenberg,<br />I think you need to be more succinct regarding "revivalist churches." You may be painting with a broad brush here. There are "revivalist churches" who try to manufacture the Christ-life in church members because they have filled their churches with false professions of still lost people (one, two, three, say it after me churches). However, there are also "revivalist churches" that have a biblical view of Spirit-filled living and teach what is necessary to that. Certainly I Corinthians would be a "revialist" epistle dealing with repentance of carnality and Ephesians dealing with the positive issues of revival.Lance Ketchumhttp://www.disciplemakerministries.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20213892.post-64484271112409426142015-05-05T01:28:06.729-07:002015-05-05T01:28:06.729-07:00I believe it is noteworthy that in the history of ...I believe it is noteworthy that in the history of early fundamentalism clarity on the gospel was not a major issue. Whether one believed in the virgin birth, yes; whether one believed in repentance, no.KJB1611https://www.blogger.com/profile/09696273086955004524noreply@blogger.com